The Family of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York |
Elizabeth's opinions on events that occurred outside her lifetime can be difficult to guess because there are important issues that she did live through that remain mysteries. We do not know how she felt about Richard III or if she plotted to assist Henry Tudor in coming to power. We do not know how she felt about Perkin Warbeck or if she thought he might be her brother, Richard Duke of York. She kept her ideas about the controversies of the day close and submitted to her husband, Henry VII, as she saw as her duty.
The Family of Henry VIII |
On one hand, Elizabeth understood the importance of an heir. The disappearance of her brothers is what cleared the way for her to become queen with the first Tudor king at her side. She risked her own life to bear another child when Prince Arthur died, leaving Henry an only son. Elizabeth would have understood that it was a precarious position to leave the kingdom with a single young girl as heir. Elizabeth had never put forth her own right to the crown over her husband's. Would she have fought for the rights of Princess Mary?
Katherine of Aragon |
If Elizabeth could have been convinced that Henry really did require a more fertile wife, I still believe that she would have been horrified by his decision to break with Rome. The very idea would have been more shocking than we can imagine to almost any monarch who ruled before Henry VIII. The pope was God's representative on earth and the final authority in all matters. For Henry to set himself up as equal or above him would have been blasphemy to his mother. She may have been convinced to encourage Katherine to retire to a nunnery, but I do not believe Elizabeth of York would have ever supported her son's more extreme measures.
Would the Church of England have been formed if Elizabeth had still been alive? Would Henry have listened to his mother to any greater degree than he took the advice of anyone else who did not tell him what he wanted to hear? That may be speculation that is beyond me, but I can fairly confidently state that Elizabeth of York would have opposed her son's actions and at least attempted to steer him along a different path.
Elizabeth of York |
Or maybe Henry would have completely ignored his mother and done whatever he wanted anyway. But it is fun to think of the possibilities.
Nice article, Samantha! Like you said, he probably wouldn't have listened, but I do agree that she wouldn't have approved. Not only for all the reasons you stated, but she and Catherine of Aragon were very close themself. But I don't think Henry would have gone so far as to punish her mother or anything.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Kirsten. It was fun to hypothesize about it a bit. I have great respect for those who write alternate history because thinking of what-ifs makes my head spin!
DeleteIf he killed anne,who he tore his kingdom apart for, who wouldn't he kill? Nobody was safe with Henry.
DeleteTrue, Helen. Maybe he would have simply sent his mother away as he did with poor Katherine.
DeleteSamantha i know this sounds awful but i honestly think he would have had EOY put to death had she spoken,up. Margaret Beaufort too.
DeleteI dread to think what his grandmother Margaret Beaufort would have made of it! - lol
ReplyDeleteShe might have been able to keep Henry in line!
DeleteLol nobody could keep Henry in line!
DeleteFantastic article! I agree with you. I think she would’ve been horrified but accepting, as she was taught to be.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Beth!
DeleteWasnt EOY basically a doormat?
Delete"Doormat"?!? I prefer to think Elizabeth of York had a quiet strength and resilience that helped her get through a lot. A woman who chooses to be politically inactive is not a "doormat".
DeleteI agree, Kirsten. EoY lived in a very different time and she used what power she had in an unobtrusive way. Without her support, Henry Tudor would have had much greater difficulty being accepted by the English people.
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DeleteSorry I phrased my question poorly. I just was under the impression EOY did very little.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't offend and sorry for the attitude. It's no problem. She did do a lot for her children, and did everything a Queen should do in terms of helping the poor. Sorry for snarkiness.
DeleteNo worries thanks for clarifying.
DeleteMy favorite queen consort is eleanor of aquitaine.
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ReplyDeleteSamantha do uou think Mary I would have done any of Elizabeth's accomplishments? I do think ib spite of Elizabeth's cruel side we are still better off for having had her rule England.
ReplyDeleteIt's so difficult to say. Elizabeth was a clever politician, where Mary certainly was not. I do feel that she would have eventually stood up to Philip in the same way, despite being married to him.
DeleteMary you mean? How come?
DeleteBecause when it came down to it, Mary was as passionate about her kingdom as Elizabeth was.
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