Henry VIII |
Both Edward IV and Henry VIII were confident young men and widely acclaimed when they came to the throne. Each was welcomed and celebrated in a way that their fathers had not been, the handsome teens capturing the hearts of the people more successfully than Richard Duke of York or Henry VII had. Looking much alike, with their tall, athletic frames and red-gold hair, anyone seeing them together would have immediately seen the family resemblance.
Of course, no one did see them together. By the time Henry took the throne, his maternal grandfather had been dead for twenty-six years, much longer than Henry had been alive. Surely, his mother, Elizabeth of York, would have noticed the similarities between her beloved father and spirited son. But by 1509, she was also dead. There were a few to take note that the new Tudor king looked much like a Plantagenet, but it is not likely that they commented upon it.
Elizabeth of York (Edward IV's daughter and Henry VIII's mother) |
There was certainly every reason to think that Henry would sire many children. He was one of eight children, though only he and two sisters survived to adulthood. His grandfather had ten children by his wife, Elizabeth Woodville, and at least a few illegitimate children. As the almost eighteen year old Henry accepted his new crown, few could have foreseen the obsessive quest for an heir that would define his reign.
Maybe it was because of the arrogance of youth or willingness to step out on their own that led both of these new kings to raise up new men to surround themselves with. Instead of calling upon the patriarchs of ancient families to advise them, Edward and Henry preferred to seek wisdom from whatever source provided it. Men like William Hastings and Charles Brandon are examples of this. Others, who might have been expected to hold greater positions, such as the Stafford men, were held at a distance by both kings.
Edward IV |
Edward, a man who seemed to be at his best when at war, disintegrated into self-destructive habits when his kingdom was at peace. Known to gorge himself on food and then purge so that he could eat more, Edward lost the muscular physique of his younger years under layers of fat, just as his grandson would though Henry's was also due to injuries that made it painful to walk. As they aged and grew more cantankerous, both kings had problems with women.
Elizabeth Woodville was a strong, ambitious woman, which made her unattractive to most men of the 15th century. The marriage matches, titles, and positions given to her many siblings caused people to turn against her and Edward. Henry's problem was quite the opposite, it seemed that no matter how many women he married, he could not cause one of them to give him a son. While Edward struggled to balance the wants and needs of a large extended family and many children of his own, Henry became obsessed with his need for a son to inherit his kingdom. Even after the birth of his own Prince Edward, named for his illustrious grandfather, Henry carried on to marry three more women. As a younger son himself, Henry understood the need for an heir and a spare.
Raised up with great expectations and hopes for the future, both of the promising young kings died leaving young boys to inherit their throne. Edward's son is lost to history as one of the Princes in the Tower, but Henry's son did not fare much better. After reigning only six years, Edward VI succumbed to illness, and the princess who Henry never thought was good enough to be his heir became Queen Mary, England's first Queen Regnant.
The wars between cousins that put Edward on the throne did not end with his death. Instead, there was a resurgence as the people failed to accept Richard III's rule. Henry Tudor was the most distant of Plantagenet cousins, but the familial infighting did not stop there. In order to secure her throne, Mary was forced to imprison her cousin, Lady Jane Grey, who the council had attempted to enthrone. Queen Elizabeth, Mary's sister, spent much of her life putting off making the decision regarding which of her cousins would be named her heir. Maybe it was not so much that Edward and Henry were so similar, but that some things just never change.
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I think Edward's indulgence at the end is slightly exaggerated. Some of three similarities are true, though. But Edward clearly is better and never became a tyrant.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment, Kirsten. I agree that there are important differences, but I thought that the similarities were greater than we normally consider as well. It was a fun train of thought to follow.
DeleteOh, yeah. I never said the similarities you mentioned weren't true.It is kind of fun to consider.
DeleteI do think though, that Edward's indulgences were certainly greater in the end than any monarch to have come before him. Wouldn't you agree? So from that perspective, not really an exaggeration. It truly is a fascinating train of thought to pursue. Thanks for writing this, Samantha!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Stephanie. As far as indulging himself in food, wine, & women, I'm not sure anyone challenges Edward! His wife is not currently popular, but one must give her credit for tolerating his behavior with dignity.
DeleteI always thought Henry might've had sons if he'd of stuck with one woman long enough ( but not Katherine of Aragon)
ReplyDeletePossibly. Katherine did have a son who did not survive infancy.
DeleteKatherine of Aragon had a son, Henry duke
DeleteOf Cornwall, he was born January 1st 1511, died February of 1511.
Why did Henry not marry off Mary to insure he at least had a grandson to succeed him, if he had maybe the Tudor dynasty would have continued.
ReplyDeleteEdward could be a tyrant he had the Lancastrian king, Henry VI murdered, murdered the kings son at Tewkesbury and dragged Lancastrian nobles seeking sanctuary out of the cathedral and murdered.
Exactly Elizabeth too except she didn't come of age until Edward's reign.
DeleteGlad more people are starting to see the similarities between Henry VIII and his grandfather Edward IV. I totally agree Henry was very much a Plantagenet king. He certainly didn't pick up his bad sexual habits from his own dad! I'm curious what you think Edward IV would have done if he couldn't have a son with his wife? What if he and Elizabeth Woodville only had daughters?
ReplyDeleteWell, he already had affairs, so the idea that he might legitimize one of his bastards or set aside his wife doesn't seem too outrageous.
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